Curse

Silent Kitty · Aug 29, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

I settle for a bigger exploring area, smarter hench and less godly monsters, unless they are bosses who drop good items.
Anet doesn't understand that with every item-drop nerf they make the game less desirable. I spent all day killing bosses for drops, and they never dropped one single green. The rewards for killing bosses is way to low.
Also, cookie builds are killing the game. It makes it boring and boring.
I'll buy Nightfall, but when it isn't any bigger than Factions, I'll put it in a drawer and forget all about Guild Wars.

Rusty Deth · Aug 29, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

I'm going to ask for it for X-mas since I'm still knee deep in Factions.

That way I finally would get the best x-mas gift evar!!

penguo · Aug 29, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

the only part that i agree with is that 8 slots is way too little...but i doubt that will ever change

8 skill slots is perfect, plus you cant change skills or have 3 bars up wherever you are. If i wanted that non-strategy I would be playing WoW a lot more than I am.

TaiClaw · Aug 29, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

I'm buying Nightfall for whatever ingame item I get with the CE, so I can sell it on the first day of release for 100k + and pawn it all back to my Assasin.

Anyone with me?

Kern Wolf · Aug 29, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

IMO, Nightfall is gonna be a make-or-break thing with ANET. You liked Prophecies; you hated Factions (or vice-versa). You liked grinding; you didn't like grinding. You like to PVE more than PVP; you like PVP more than PVE. It's going to be interesting to see, after all the speculation going on, how Nighfall will deliver. I'll be buying it, giving them the benefit of the doubt with Factions. IMO, they followed a really great Ch1 with a not so great Ch2, so I'm more than curious to see if they can deliver with Nightfall...

TaiClaw · Aug 29, 2006, 12:18 PM // 12:18

If we have learnt anything from games like Doom 3, Battle for Middle Earth 1, Duke Nukem Forever and Daikatana, we should know that hype ruins a game.

To tired to explain why, but i'm sure you will understand if you have been a hardcore gamer for the past 10 years.

dread pirate fargus · Aug 29, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41

my only hope for nightfall is that some of the factions nerfs are removed. like running. not only is it a good hobby of mine, i also use runners a lot. people say running is just a way of getting noobs where they shouldnt be. this is wrong. when i make my 15th character, i dont want to be jerking around on naphui quarter mission AGAIN i want to get to cavalon and start the REAL story. hence running would be awesome. the simple reason is you cannot get far in the game unless you spend a good 20 hours of repetitive afflicted slaying gaming. running is one of the things that makes prophecies so replayable. running is what i need to see back in nightfall and i will buy it.

Lonesamurai · Aug 29, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

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Originally Posted by dread pirate fargus

my only hope for nightfall is that some of the factions nerfs are removed. like running. not only is it a good hobby of mine, i also use runners a lot. people say running is just a way of getting noobs where they shouldnt be. this is wrong. when i make my 15th character, i dont want to be jerking around on naphui quarter mission AGAIN i want to get to cavalon and start the REAL story. hence running would be awesome. the simple reason is you cannot get far in the game unless you spend a good 20 hours of repetitive afflicted slaying gaming. running is one of the things that makes prophecies so replayable. running is what i need to see back in nightfall and i will buy it.

Ok, if you had said, "when i make my 15th character, i dont want to be jerking around on Fort Ranik mission AGAIN i want to get to Desert/Droks and start the REAL story." then that would have made sense...

However the real story starts from the first mission in Factions and doesn't deviate at all that i can see...

Ninna · Aug 29, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by dread pirate fargus

my only hope for nightfall is that some of the factions nerfs are removed. like running

if you watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V92rCgKamTk

you will see that Nightfall has at least 1 barricade that prevents running

Loviatar · Aug 29, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

most of the things the complaining OP mentioned as reasons not to get Nightfall are reasons i WILL get Nightfall.

2ndName · Aug 29, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I am also buying it. I support ANET and I love GW. The Temple Save option is one huge reason to purchase Nightfall. And in regards to the half ass graphics, have you seen other MMO? GW beats them in every sense in regards to graphics. I do agree about the faces, they need to combine all faces/skins/hairs. That way, when you create a Canthan warrior, you can use faces/hair from Tyria and Elona. That would be awesome.

Pandora's box · Aug 29, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Hmmm lets see... To my opinion Grinding is much more fun than aggroing! Aggroing is repetitive in a boring way, it holds up the game, and does not encourage players to find new strategies.

Since its unlikely Anet now will support grinding, I hope they find ways to make maps attractive without hundreds of red dots crawling in each valley: Why not make a huge dragon (with lots of spells) controll the valley? Hidden structures with random dungeons would be great too! Anyway, make the game more non-linear and PLEASE add NEW elements that make the game move more towards RPG

Sir Skullcrasher · Aug 29, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by Xenrath

I would REALLY like to know how many of the sales of Factions turned out to be merged accounts i.e. fans of the original buying the second one. If it's a pretty high percent that rides roughshot over the whole "it's a standalone" game argument - people are buying them as expansions.

That is, of course, assuming there's a high percent of merged accounts as opposed to "standalone" accounts. Without info from Anet, no way of knowing really, but I'm going to take a guess from the forums at least most here are mergers and approaching it like expansions. They end up buying because most of their Guild gets it, for PvP reasons etc if they want to stay "up to date"

p.s. I mean active accounts, not ones who maybe stopped playing.

I actually brought factions and merge it with my existing account. I'm still thinking about getting nightfall. There are things i wish for (customization of characters, weapons upgrades.. etc) But what do you expect.. you don't pay monthly fee only the price of the game.

One thing i wanted to see are hidden areas or different bosses (diffcult one like Glint) who guards special areas or items. Also can we FINALLY get a better quests reward instead of xp, gold, and sometime crappy items?

Lonesamurai · Aug 29, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

One thing i wanted to see are hidden areas or different bosses (diffcult one like Glint) who guards special areas or items. Also can we FINALLY get a better quests reward instead of xp, gold, and sometime crappy items?

Agreed on the big boss characters... But what the hell are you saying about the quest rewards...

Gold, high exp and a skill point is much better than it used to be... Its much more flexible now, so how can you say other wise? The reason they did this in Factions was because players were complaining about the rigid way you learned skills in Prophecies, and they succeeded here, so lets keep the good and change the bad

prism2525 · Aug 29, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

a little off topic perhaps, but will nightfall give two more char slots like factions? Or do we have to buy them since now there's the online shop? (I honestly hope they will give them with the game cos i don't think many would like it if they didn't.)

To the OP, about the skills. GW having the 8-skills-only-at-a-time thing is what makes it different. Don't get me wrong i would simply looove to be able to use them all but then only precious few builds would survive. the IW mesmer, and others i don't know. on second thought builds will simply vanish for the 'skillbar' would be your entire skill arsenal.

Lonesamurai · Aug 29, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by prism2525

a little off topic perhaps, but will nightfall give two more char slots like factions? Or do we have to buy them since now there's the online shop? (I honestly hope they will give them with the game cos i don't think many would like it if they didn't.)

To the OP, about the skills. GW having the 8-skills-only-at-a-time thing is what makes it different. Don't get me wrong i would simply looove to be able to use them all but then only precious few builds would survive. the IW mesmer, and others i don't know. on second thought builds will simply vanish for the 'skillbar' would be your entire skill arsenal.

yes, 2 for the main game and an extra free slot for the prerelease box aswell, which is a bargain

prism2525 · Aug 29, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

yes, 2 for the main game and an extra free slot for the prerelease box aswell, which is a bargain

nah i don't really need another slot. I already bought 3 so i'll always have 1 for every new profession + 1 for pvp

Kakumei · Aug 29, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by prism2525

a little off topic perhaps, but will nightfall give two more char slots like factions? Or do we have to buy them since now there's the online shop? (I honestly hope they will give them with the game cos i don't think many would like it if they didn't.)

It'll be like Factions. Two more if you add Nightfall to your account. Alex Weekes said it somewhere, I'd have to look it up.

**cosyfiep** · Aug 29, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

hm, why would I buy nightfall.......welll, got burned on the preorder of factions (and no the minipet didnt make up for not getting to play with my guildees when I had a forced vacation and only prophecys to play).....I will wait until it hits the stores.....I really dont care about the uber CE weapons (they werent that good), so I think that some GOOD reviews and no marketing problems would be a start........I am on the fence right now, and will remain there until its in the stores!

Sir Skullcrasher · Aug 29, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Anyone think we'll finally get lip-sync for all the in-game cutscene now or will they continue to speak without moving their mouth?